[Marcus making bird calls, birdsong] A lot of my work is about becoming animal, and trying to get as close as I can, or actually physically embody it somehow. So becoming animal, I feel, is something that I’ve trained myself to do; and looking back historically, it’s something that Shamans do. By becoming animal they can access knowledge and understanding of different worlds, and they can access answers to very specific problems in their own communities. Thanks very much for coming. Welcome to Rosie’s flat. I’m going to do a journey. I’m going to go down to the lower world, and on your behalf, I will talk to animal spirits and glean any information I can from them. [Acting out a stag] I kind of just imagine myself, I close my eyes and I imagine myself going down through a hole in the ground and travelling down into the centre of the earth, and into a very, very separate state or place, and then I sit there for a while and I wait for things to come to me. And if nothing happens, which often is the case, I call out, I mimic birds, and I call out to animals and birds, and try and summon animals and birds up and try and get them to do things. So I might do a moorhen call, which is like a ‘brrr, brr,’ and then I might see a moorhen, and I might converse with it. And this is… nothing really usually happens with the moorhen; it just sort of walks off, and I go on to the next bird and the next animal. And eventually, usually, some animal does something quite specific and special. [Shaman sequence] [Birdwatching] There was a peregrine that was going over. Was there? I can’t see if he still is on the pylon – he was on the pylon. I think that might have been a kestrel, that one. [Walking] Here we go [pointing] That the kestrel? Apparently. Yes, it’s a kestrel. Is that a kestrel? The piece at the Tate is a film called The Plover’s Wing, and it’s about the Israeli/Palestinian crisis. It’s a subject I don’t know a lot about really. And I went to Israel and had a meeting with this mayor of the city called Holon. He asked me this question about the crisis, and I endeavoured to answer this question, or find some insight into this question for him. And I – in front of him, I put everything into it. I saw – mainly, I saw the plover – or a green plover, sometimes called a lapwing or a peewit. I saw it doing its characteristic behaviour. It nests on the ground, and it had a broken wing, or was pretending to have a broken wing, and it was leading me away from the nest. And I knew that’s kind of a default position for it. It always does that when it feels threatened or has a predator near the nest; and I knew I wasn’t a threat to this bird; but it was just seeing everything as a threat, I think. What the bird represents here is the idea of identifying with a certain position – identifying with a victim position. [Interpreter translates] Do you have any questions for me? No. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.