Film 2 - Gilbert & George explain how they keep track of the source material, indexing everything.

George: Here we are in Studio 2, and one of the longest walls is filled entirely with a written index to subject matter, so that if you want some trees or if we want some Jesuses or we want some text, we can find them on the wall.  You see here we have: crucifix cross, Jesus close, Jesus very close, cross front (that is without Jesus), cross back.  See we can go from the index to the box of contact sheets and there we have crucifix but there are literally thousands of different ones. 

Gilbert: And the ones who have a red cross we used, the other ones unused.  We have what do you call images of ourselves done in 2003 and very good descriptions of us don’t you think.

George: The general headings: normal, nuts, jombies – because we have took many images of ourselves that look like dead people, like they are fading away as we all fade away, like ashen, and we call those"jombies" because we had a young Korean friend who saw for the first time horror films when he visited London, and he came one morning and he said, “I saw a horrible film last night, all the people were coming out of the cemetery, terrible jombies”, he meant zombies, of course so, we can’t use the word zombies any more, its just "jombies".  Normal close, nuts close, "jombies" close, invisible that’s where we have faded almost entirely away.  And do you see here some of the massive archive we have of newspaper posters.  We use these just… so far we have only used it for the bomb pictures but we have a section on rape, a section on child sex, a section on robbery, crime.

Gilbert: So, this is like a modern townscape we don’t have to paint it, it just is there its extraordinary.

George: "Yobs pictured robbing one-hundred-and-four-year-old", "Pickpocket leaves war widow, 95, penniless", "Postoffice robbery warning to old age pensioners", "Robbed woman, 105, spent last days in fear",  "Woman, 99, robbed by cruel tricksters".  We are very interested in these because they are, of course, they tell you something about the media, and how we are attacked and approached in various ways, but they also contain the deep, human tragedy as well and its those two levels that we find very fascinating.  "Soccer boss faces sex claims", there is a huge section on sex. We rob them, we steal them, like the thieves on the posters, we are the same.

Gilbert: One of us has to go in to buy the Mars Bar.

George: To distract the shopkeeper. It’s very difficult. You can’t ask for them, they become very suspicious, the shopkeepers, if you ask.

Gilbert: But the day after they are meaningless, so it doesn't matter.



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